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According to this article, not only has the US Air Force Research Laboratory made environmentally-friendly batteries that provide continuous power for 30 years possible, they could be commercially available in 2-3 years.
www.nextenergynews.com/news1/....1.html
There were quite a few links about this when I googled the subject, so I guess it's no hoax. Could someone with a better head for tech than I have weigh in on the subject? If this is for real, I suspect the retail price will be prohibitive at first but still.. the applications in other fields are staggering. What field couldn't be furthered by a self-sustaining power supply with a lifespan measured in decades?
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Re: 30yr laptop batteries?
Tue, October 23, 2007 - 11:36 PMOffhand I don't see anything wrong with the physics, although the article you pointed to has mistakes in it. There is no way to generate tritium as a by product of neutron beta decay (or, rather, you would have to start with a core of three neutrons, which isn't exactly something you'd drop by Walmart to pick up). I suspect tritium might actually be the fuel (since it decays through beta decay in to helium-3). If so, creating enough of it would probably be the most expensive aspect. It is patently wrong to say this is not "Nuclear". It's not fission or fusion, but the primary process is a nuclear radioactive decay event.
So, the short version is you have some material that spits out relatively high energy electrons, which they are able to cause to cascade and drive a current. How cheaply this can be done, I would definitely question. -
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Re: 30yr laptop batteries?
Sat, October 27, 2007 - 5:25 PMI like you iHod.
Thanks for being an active member of Geek Dating.
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Re: 30yr laptop batteries?
Wed, November 21, 2007 - 7:03 PMi'd take an 8 hour battery in the meantime -
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Re: 30yr laptop batteries?
Tue, November 27, 2007 - 7:52 PMIs that how long it takes you to...
Oh wait, _laptop_ battery. And this isn't the shameless flirting tribe. Sorry. ;) -
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Re: 30yr laptop batteries?
Tue, November 27, 2007 - 9:57 PM"And this isn't the shameless flirting tribe. Sorry."
That's never stopped anyone before <g>. And heck, if it were, maybe more Geeks would get with the Dating part!! -
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Re: 30yr laptop batteries?
Tue, November 27, 2007 - 11:25 PMWell we could always test out your theory. Now all we would have to do is change the name to,,, now we will need a sample size of.. to be statistically accurate ahhh oh yeah dating now what' s that again? So what ya do is make a GIS layer based on locality with everyone's name on it so we actually know who is nearby and let the shameless flirting begin. Geez I could think of all sorts of geekery involved in a GIS linked to a database ......... Oh yeah batteries hmmm 30 year laptop battery nice.
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Re: 30yr laptop batteries?
Thu, November 29, 2007 - 1:27 PMNo hoax. The technology is 50 years old. But the article is misleading.
"Although betavoltaic batteries sound Nuclear they’re not, they neither use fission/fusion or chemical processes to produce energy and so (do not produce any radioactive or hazardous waste)."
The process is nuclear, but the process of decay emits beta particles (high speed electrons & positrons), not gamma rays, which we all know causes the public to turn green, musclebound and sociopathic.
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Re: 30yr laptop batteries?
Thu, November 29, 2007 - 1:34 PMOh some fun facts about tritium:
Tritium is an isotope of hydrogen with two neutrons. It naturally forms in the atmosphere from bombardment by cosmic radiation. Some of it forms into water and yep, you've drank it at some point. The beta particles emitted can't pentrate human skin, but you really shouldn't inhale or drink it.
(gotta run...more fun facts later)
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